GZ2 Practice Session (WIP) REQUESTING HELP!!!!

[vizharan]

Ok, I gave it a shot at recording something for y'all to mess with. It's alright I suppose, but I was not using a metronome, so I can understand if you want it redone, but here is the MP3 of it.

www.mediafire.com/?dpsjnpzzq4m

[derelict68]

That was awesome! I wonder if it wouldn't work out better as 3 seperate pieces, so as if the only part you had trouble with was the last part, you could only do the last part. Other than that, Nice work!

Wonder if we could talk Callisto into supporting a different ogg with different difficulties, therefore being able to play the "Tapping Tutorial" (as an example) in easy, medium, and hard but still have the vocal parts tied to the particular difficulty....medium.ogg FTW!

[vizharan]

As a temporary solution, you could just have different sections and use practice mode, but something better would have to eventually come along.

[canped]

That sounds VERY difficult to implement. I think it'd be better if you made one continuous tutorial that covers everything for each difficulty and name each part of the tutorial as sections so that when you play it, obviously in practice mode, you can pick which part of the tutorial you want to play, since that feature already exists.

[CJB100]

yah or just have the different "bits and parts" of the tutorial as different tracks completely.

[canped]

CJB, if you did it like that you'd need 216 seperate .oggs

If you use the section naming, you need 6

Personally, I think its a no-brainer.

[derelict68]

Aug 20, 2008 15:36:17 GMT -5 canped said:

That sounds VERY difficult to implement.

Difficult? Seems easy to me....without source I can only assume there is a function "Play" that plays the various oggs at the proper times...

Instead of

Play(song.ogg, guitar.ogg)


You just

Select Case Difficulty

Case "Easy":
If FileExists(song_easy.ogg) AND FileExists(guitar_easy.ogg) then
Play (song_easy.ogg, guitar_easy.ogg)
Else
Play (song.ogg, guitar.ogg)
End if

copy, paste, find/replace medium
copy, paste, find/replace hard
copy, paste, find/replace expert


Looks like a lot, but wouldn't be so hard it wouldn't be worth asking if the feature would be cool. It seems to me like Callisto enjoys the features he can implement easily that sets GZ2 apart from other games.

Of course, if this is the only situation something like that would be useful, then when the pack is finished we ask Callisto to actually create a "tutorial" mode that does something similar.

[canped]

But it auto-searches for all .oggs in the folder and plays them based on their name, all at the same time. PLUS, the .mid can't play back 2 different speeds at the same time, so the fretboard would be moving to fast for the notes. The best way to do this is make 3 completely seperate songs with a guitar and song.ogg each, for each different difficulty. That's just what I think.

Then, if it is implemented into a tutorial section, Calliso can set it up so that you selection your difficulty, and then that determines which song/difficulty will be played, and it'll go on to the section slection. Perfect.

[CJB100]

CJB, if you did it like that you'd need 216 seperate .oggs

If you use the section naming, you need 6

Personally, I think its a no-brainer.

just so we're clear, cuz i think either you misunderstood me or i misunderstood the last 3 or 4 posts, i meant have an ogg for the easy tutorials, an ogg for the medium, and an ogg for the hard and one of expert, i know that it would be a lot of songs, but i mean it's like having a four tier pack and 8 songs per tier or something like that right? i have like the opposite in my pack, 8 tiers and 4 songs each plus encore, and 25 bonus songs and i am not complaining about having too many .ogg's. and if we did it this way, we could just have one difficulty per tier, ex. the tier with easy tutorials has only easy difficulty, the medium has only medium so on and so forth.

i don't care how it's done ultimately it's up to escortdew to decide, but this might be the best way until and if callisto is willing to actually put a tutorial mode in the game to read the files however we want.

[vizharan]

Please note that I am making another tapping tutorial, an effing advanced one, in addition to the one I posted. Also, I would rather someone else chart them, as I will be working quite a bit on actual songs. Also, I saved the project and can go back take out the pieces that y'all want. I recorded the basic trill, two-note tapping, 3-note tapping, and the end separately, and then just mixed them down so that everyone could take a listen to it and post feedback.

[esc0rtd3w]

wow... i stepped away for a day and this thread got hammered....lol

ok here is a reply to everyone i can remember reading about

vizharan:
YOU ROCK!!! AWESOME JOB
can you make separate just 4 (easy, medium, hard, expert) tutorial sessions???...a few mins. each??

derelict68, canped, CJB100:
i think just having sections for each difficulty and having one ogg per difficulty would be OK.....but this thing is finally starting to look more promising, so i think we can all come up with something that will work.

@callisto:
if you could implement this somehow into the game menus or something, that would be perfect......i am not sure how hard this would be, but something to think about.

@everyone else:
thanks for all of the input

[vizharan]

I could. How about this:

Easy tapping: trills and two notes
Medium tapping: two notes and three notes
Hard tapping: fast trills and fast two notes
Expert tapping: moderate three notes, TTFAF Intro type stuff, Clliffs of Dover type stuff(you know the part, intro solo 2 or something).

And Insane tapping: Surfing with the Alien, Eruption, and One type stuff, Insane three notes.

Lemme know what you think of this setup.

[esc0rtd3w]

it sounds good.....but how hard is it going to be to make charts from these??

[r3mak3r]

This is a good idea!!
Too bad i came across it late...

[derelict68]

Other than it not having been updated in a little while, why do you think that you're too late? I'm for one hoping that this project isn't dead..just paused. :-)

[esc0rtd3w]

lol....just paused indeed

i have been busy lately (in real life....lol), but am still planning on finishing this one day.

vizharan:
can u post your mp3s if you have them available yet??

[akalink]

I could totally help you out here, I have an good knowlege of midi and could make an how to play tutorial track pack. I'll get started on it right away, I just need to know what lesson should be done. I start with using hopo